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Ethics
Dear sexsoundlover friends,
I really love this board and I liked downloading the files posted by members of yahoo´s sexsoundlovers group. Also I have recorded similar files on my own and in many cases I have used hidded mikes to spy on my wife and stuff. However, although I found myself to be equipped with quite a flexible conscience, sometimes I wonder if what I do is ethically correct. Probably not. I have no problem with eavesdropping on neighbours but I guess my wife would kill me if she would find out that I have recordings of her most private moments. I wondered if you could let me know what you think about my little dilemma.
Best,
Thomas
I really love this board and I liked downloading the files posted by members of yahoo´s sexsoundlovers group. Also I have recorded similar files on my own and in many cases I have used hidded mikes to spy on my wife and stuff. However, although I found myself to be equipped with quite a flexible conscience, sometimes I wonder if what I do is ethically correct. Probably not. I have no problem with eavesdropping on neighbours but I guess my wife would kill me if she would find out that I have recordings of her most private moments. I wondered if you could let me know what you think about my little dilemma.
Best,
Thomas
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Hi Thomas,
although we´d like to listen to your intimate moments, there is a simple answer (for me):
if you feel really bad about posting, don´t do it.
What you might do instead is talk with your wife before sending any of her sounds. If she says "no way", let it be.
Hope to hear you nevertheless,
yeppie
although we´d like to listen to your intimate moments, there is a simple answer (for me):
if you feel really bad about posting, don´t do it.
What you might do instead is talk with your wife before sending any of her sounds. If she says "no way", let it be.
Hope to hear you nevertheless,
yeppie
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Hi Yeppie,
Those recordings I made are mostly recordings of her masturbating. I try to stop recording them but as soon as I leave the house I am just too tempted, switch on the recording system and hope some more hot sounds of her.
However, regarding sexsoundlover files, I would like to thank you for having collected some of the finest sex audio files and I really appreciate all the effort you put into this community and into the old group.
Best
Thomas
Those recordings I made are mostly recordings of her masturbating. I try to stop recording them but as soon as I leave the house I am just too tempted, switch on the recording system and hope some more hot sounds of her.
However, regarding sexsoundlover files, I would like to thank you for having collected some of the finest sex audio files and I really appreciate all the effort you put into this community and into the old group.
Best
Thomas
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This is just my take... but we as 'audiovoyers' is considered a bit of a 'fetish' if you will. Like any other 'fetish', it comes with stigmas and whatnot... which can be taken many in who knows how many ways by people. My policy is not to tell my partners of my 'fetish'... but if the subject gets touched upon in conversation (ie. not going out of the way to bring it up..) I may hint at it in a joking matter to see what their response is... but unless they react acceptingly to it... I would not pursue the issue.
Audiovoyers like other fetishes (although I would say this is by far one of the tamest fetishes around).... may come across as distasteful to some and might create unnecessary stress in your relationship.
This is just my take... but we as 'audiovoyers' is considered a bit of a 'fetish' if you will. Like any other 'fetish', it comes with stigmas and whatnot... which can be taken many in who knows how many ways by people. My policy is not to tell my partners of my 'fetish'... but if the subject gets touched upon in conversation (ie. not going out of the way to bring it up..) I may hint at it in a joking matter to see what their response is... but unless they react acceptingly to it... I would not pursue the issue.
Audiovoyers like other fetishes (although I would say this is by far one of the tamest fetishes around).... may come across as distasteful to some and might create unnecessary stress in your relationship.
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Ethics: if you *know* your partner would be angry with you doing it, and accordingly you don't tell your partner about it, then I think this can only be considered unethical. Indeed, recording through walls and windows and so forth is actually illegal (unlawful surveillance) in many places, possibly nationally (USA).
Some people decide to set aside traditional ethics for this kind of thing on the larger view that "what they don't know won't harm them, and since it's totally anonymous, it *really* won't harm them." However, if discovered it will still (probably) harm *you*, so I leave it to you to decide how far to take this reasoning.
Spiritual: may not concern most people, but I am further of the belief that any dishonesty between partners has spiritual ramifications that impact the relationship in hard-to-define ways. Keeping secrets is not good for you; and this unhealthiness does seem to seep across the secrecy barrier, even when the secret is kept.
That said, these may be risks and/or consequences you are willing to take simply because listening to sex is so damn hot!!! (Not to mention how much the rest of us will thank you for sharing the sounds.)
In addition to mjj's suggestion, you might also try the slippery slope approach:
1) "Honey, I want to record you just for us, because I love the way we sound together." etc. etc. You probably know the sequence. She may say no at first, but it doesn't mean you can't try again. Never beg or plead, just tell her how much you love her, and the sounds she makes.
2) Also, see if there are ways to get *her* aroused by audio. A hotel with thin walls, perhaps, see what her response is to the neighbors doing it. Maybe "finding" a recording in some way and sharing it with her, see what she thinks. etc. etc. You can figure it out.
Far be it from me to discourage anyone from this fetish, but as much as we may love it, I do think it should be entered into as honestly as possible.
Uh, except for unlawful surveillance. In that case, I say, if you can get away with it, then do it! (This from someone who once drilled out an extra (fake) electrical outlet in his apartment wall in order to get a little closer to that super hot neighbor!)
Some people decide to set aside traditional ethics for this kind of thing on the larger view that "what they don't know won't harm them, and since it's totally anonymous, it *really* won't harm them." However, if discovered it will still (probably) harm *you*, so I leave it to you to decide how far to take this reasoning.
Spiritual: may not concern most people, but I am further of the belief that any dishonesty between partners has spiritual ramifications that impact the relationship in hard-to-define ways. Keeping secrets is not good for you; and this unhealthiness does seem to seep across the secrecy barrier, even when the secret is kept.
That said, these may be risks and/or consequences you are willing to take simply because listening to sex is so damn hot!!! (Not to mention how much the rest of us will thank you for sharing the sounds.)
In addition to mjj's suggestion, you might also try the slippery slope approach:
1) "Honey, I want to record you just for us, because I love the way we sound together." etc. etc. You probably know the sequence. She may say no at first, but it doesn't mean you can't try again. Never beg or plead, just tell her how much you love her, and the sounds she makes.
2) Also, see if there are ways to get *her* aroused by audio. A hotel with thin walls, perhaps, see what her response is to the neighbors doing it. Maybe "finding" a recording in some way and sharing it with her, see what she thinks. etc. etc. You can figure it out.
Far be it from me to discourage anyone from this fetish, but as much as we may love it, I do think it should be entered into as honestly as possible.
Uh, except for unlawful surveillance. In that case, I say, if you can get away with it, then do it! (This from someone who once drilled out an extra (fake) electrical outlet in his apartment wall in order to get a little closer to that super hot neighbor!)
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Dishonesty is the best policy
Ok, I'm being a bit facetious with my subject heading...but...
Regarding scott's dilemma of sharing his clandestine recordings of couples with his significant other, I'm not sure I'd do it. If you ever had a bad breakup, she might decide to tell others about your "perverted" fetish! Now, that would be embarrassing...and possibly dangerous depending on whether your targets found out about it.
shung
Regarding scott's dilemma of sharing his clandestine recordings of couples with his significant other, I'm not sure I'd do it. If you ever had a bad breakup, she might decide to tell others about your "perverted" fetish! Now, that would be embarrassing...and possibly dangerous depending on whether your targets found out about it.
shung
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Well, if Bush can record us, I think it quite ethical to record a "bush"!coyote wrote: Indeed, recording through walls and windows and so forth is actually illegal (unlawful surveillance) in many places, possibly nationally (USA).
Now if I could just get one of Laura, that would be worth hearing...

"They that give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
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Re: Dishonesty is the best policy
The dilemma is solved, with fairly impressive results i'd say!
I thought long and hard about whether to show her any of my catches. She's not a "significant other", and if she was theres no way i'd risk it for the reason Shung pointed out. We're just friends, and although theres a bit of chemistry there it only usually shows when we're drinking, and had never ended up going anywhere past a bit of flirting and teasing.
So anyway, last night we're drunk, we get on to the subject, and she's dying to hear my recordings.
The beautiful part was the reaction... she listened... she liked... she screwed me! Last nights main event was also caught, and i'll be posting a clip of it up soon for your enjoyment. Theres not a great deal to hear because of the music trap i always get caught in and also because my flatmate had friends around, but I remember there being at least one choice clip.
needless to say, its the best nights work i've done in a while. reeeeeesult!!
I thought long and hard about whether to show her any of my catches. She's not a "significant other", and if she was theres no way i'd risk it for the reason Shung pointed out. We're just friends, and although theres a bit of chemistry there it only usually shows when we're drinking, and had never ended up going anywhere past a bit of flirting and teasing.
So anyway, last night we're drunk, we get on to the subject, and she's dying to hear my recordings.
The beautiful part was the reaction... she listened... she liked... she screwed me! Last nights main event was also caught, and i'll be posting a clip of it up soon for your enjoyment. Theres not a great deal to hear because of the music trap i always get caught in and also because my flatmate had friends around, but I remember there being at least one choice clip.
needless to say, its the best nights work i've done in a while. reeeeeesult!!

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For anybody who was following this thread, you might like to know that i eventually posted the clip i was talking about here:
http://www.yeppie.org/ssl-forum/viewtopic.php?t=80
http://www.yeppie.org/ssl-forum/viewtopic.php?t=80